Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby ErikMc » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:13 am

Ok great thanks a lot for clearing that up!! Yes I have the 1.2049 and got it to work with the m10/m11. I will try out the developement ver. I am intrested in the m10.1/m11.1 as my sheetcam puts my thc off in front of the m03. I noticed the thc freeze did not come on during thos instances. In the new version will the m10.1 be on the same configure page? Thanks a lot for your help!! Just a newb with newb probloms hahaha
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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby shad » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:50 pm

Please Look on this as on the example of the cutting program.
M10.1/M11.1 used for Plasma Start
M10.2/M11.2 used for Automatic disable/Corner

And use this macro from Dezsoe for disable Plasma start output pin on program stop.
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1101&start=20#p10995

Code: Select all
(Filename:c:\5cm-test.dxf)
(Date:06.15.19 7:04:51 +03:00)
(CutWidth:0,7mm)
G21(Units: Metric)
G53 G90 G91.1 G40
N00001G00 X34.15 Y21.21
N00002(Perimeter start)
N00003M03
N00004M10.1 (Plasma Cutter Start)
N00005G01 X33.34 Y20.40 F8250
N00006G03 X35.30 Y21.21 I0.81 J0.81
N00007G03 X33.00 Y21.21 I-1.15 J0.00
N00008G03 X33.34 Y20.40 I1.15 J0.00
N00009M11.1 (Plasma Cutter STOP)
N00010M05
N00011G00 X17.42 Y35.58
N00012(Perimeter start)
N00013M03
N00014M10.1 (Plasma Cutter Start)
N00015G01 X24.25 Y42.40 F8250
N00016G03 X7.77 Y35.58 I-6.82 J-6.82
N00017G03 X27.07 Y35.58 I9.65 J0.00
N00018G03 X24.25 Y42.40 I-9.65 J0.00
N00019M11.1 (Plasma Cutter STOP)
N00020M05
N00021G00 X15.54 Y13.45
N00022(Perimeter start)
N00023M03
N00024M10.1 (Plasma Cutter Start)
N00025G01 X14.02 Y11.92 F8250
N00026G03 X17.69 Y13.45 I1.52 J1.52
N00027G03 X13.39 Y13.45 I-2.15 J0.00
N00028G03 X14.02 Y11.92 I2.15 J0.00
N00029M11.1 (Plasma Cutter STOP)
N00030M05
N00031G00 X39.10 Y35.69
N00032(Perimeter start)
N00033M03
N00034M10.1 (Plasma Cutter Start)
N00035G01 X42.39 Y38.98 F8250
N00036G03 X34.45 Y35.69 I-3.29 J-3.29
N00037G03 X43.75 Y35.69 I4.65 J0.00
N00038G03 X42.39 Y38.98 I-4.65 J0.00
N00039M11.1 (Plasma Cutter STOP)
N00040M05
N00041G00 X50.35 Y53.35
N00042(Perimeter start)
N00043M03
N00044M10.1 (Plasma Cutter Start)
N00045G01 X50.35 Y50.35 F8250
N00046G01 X50.35 Y41.79
N00047M10.2 (AVC ON)
N00048G01 X50.35 Y10.57
N00049M11.2 (AVCOFF)
N00050G01 X50.35 Y0.00
N00051G02 X50.00 Y-0.35 I-0.35 J0.00
N00052G01 X39.00 Y-0.35
N00053M10.2 (AVC ON)
N00054G01 X11.00 Y-0.35
N00055M11.2 (AVCOFF)
N00056G01 X0.00 Y-0.35
N00057G02 X-0.35 Y0.00 I0.00 J0.35
N00058G01 X-0.35 Y11.00
N00059M10.2 (AVC ON)
N00060G01 X-0.35 Y39.00
N00061M11.2 (AVCOFF)
N00062G01 X-0.35 Y50.00
N00063G02 X0.00 Y50.35 I0.35 J0.00
N00064G01 X10.57 Y50.35
N00065M10.2 (AVC ON)
N00066G01 X40.78 Y50.35
N00067M11.2 (AVCOFF)
N00068G01 X50.35 Y50.35
N00069G01 X52.36 Y50.35
N00070M11.1 (Plasma Cutter STOP)
N00071M05
N00072M30
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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby beefy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:51 pm

ErikMc wrote: my sheetcam puts my thc off in front of the m03.


Erik,

could you tell me what post processor you are using in Sheetcam.

Click on Options / Machine then a "Machine options" box will pop up.

Click on the Post processor tab and the following will be displayed:

POST PROCESSOR DIALOG.jpg


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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby ErikMc » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:17 am

It’s a post processor that Les made for me. I downloaded the development uccnc and the m10.1 to freeze the thc works great!!! Thanks for the help.
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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby beefy » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:22 pm

Erik,

would you be kind enough to upload a copy of your post processor here.

My post processor does NOT put path rule code snippets before M3. There are at least myself and one other guy that would like to have our code snippets put before M3, and it seems like your post processor does that.

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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby andrewwong2000 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:55 am

+1 Would appreciate seeing a fully working M10/11.x post for sheetcam if possible!

I've just started using Sheetcam, and if I put a M205/206 in to stop THC it doesn't work because the default Post does an M205 before M3. If I take the M205 out, M3 just starts without referencing the height.

Buying another software package = more stuff to learn

Thanks,
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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby andrewwong2000 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:34 am

Here's what Sheetcam is producing now..

N0010 (Filename: 20200890 - 10mm Circle Test 10mm MS.tap)
N0020 (Post processor: NeuronThcUccncPost.scpost)
N0030 (Date: 10/08/2020)
N0040 G21 (Units: Metric)
N0050 G53 G90 G91.1 G40
N0060 F1
N0070 S500
N0080 M10.2 (Post AVC On) (Part: New part)
N0090 (Operation: Outside Offset, Shape, T101: AW 10mm Steel)
N0100 G00 X0.0258 Y-0.0118
N0110 M11.2 (Code Snippet - AVC OFF) (On small shapes)
N0120 M03 (Post Torch ON)
N0130 M10.1 (Post Torch ON Synchronous)
N0140 G03 X2.9249 Y2.8873 I1.4496 J1.4496 F435.0
N0150 X3.9456 Y1.1904 I-2.8991 J-2.8991
N0160 M11.1 (Code Torch Off) (On lead out)
N0170 X2.9249 Y2.8873 I-3.9198 J-1.2022 F717.75
N0180 X-2.8734 Y-2.9109 I-2.8991 J-2.8991
N0190 M10.2 (Code AVC ON) (On small shapes)
N0200 M11.1 (Post Torch OFF Synchronous)
N0210 M05 (Post Torch OFF)
N0220 G00 X9.4752 Y14.0007
N0230 M11.2 (Code Snippet - AVC OFF) (On small shapes)
N0240 M03 (Post Torch ON)
N0250 M10.1 (Post Torch ON Synchronous)
N0260 G03 X9.4752 Y9.4752 I2.2627 J-2.2627 F435.0
N0270 G02 X7.9609 Y10.7789 I-9.4752 J-9.4752
N0280 M11.1 (Code Torch Off) (On lead out)
N0290 X9.4752 Y9.4752 I-7.9609 J-10.7789 F717.75
N0300 X12.6595 Y-4.3929 I-9.4752 J-9.4752
N0310 M10.2 (Code AVC ON) (On small shapes)
N0320 M11.1 (Post Torch OFF Synchronous)
N0330 M05 (Post Torch OFF)
N0340 M05 M30
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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby andrewwong2000 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:53 am

Footnote: I spoke to Andrew and he advised that the Neuron Lite cannot do M10.1/M11.1 for synchronous Torch On/Off.

If anyone is looking at his sample GCODE which includes the M10.1/M11.1 it would be for the Neuron Pro unit.
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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby beefy » Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:03 pm

andrewwong2000 wrote:Footnote: I spoke to Andrew and he advised that the Neuron Lite cannot do M10.1/M11.1 for synchronous Torch On/Off.

If anyone is looking at his sample GCODE which includes the M10.1/M11.1 it would be for the Neuron Pro unit.


Are you talking about the sample code Andrew posted Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:50 am in this thread ??

That code give no example of synchronous torch on/off. Synchronous torch on/off is where the torch is turned on/off during XY motion, without any pause in the motion. So basically you would have M10.1 / M11.1 during a set of XY moves. That is not the case with that sample code, where M10.1 comes immediately after M3, and M11.1 comes just before M5. No synchronous torch on/off at all there.

Anyway, trying to find more info, I went to Andrews website, hunting for more info on the Professional version of his THC. I clicked on the user manual download button but all it downloaded was the manual for the Neuron Lite, and no sign of UCCNC M10.1 / M11.1 synchronous torch on/off commands. I asked Andrew a long time ago to update the manual for the Neuron Lite, got to be 2 years ago now, and not only has it never been updated, but it also appears the Professional THC user guide link simply takes you to the Neuron Lite manual, which is still very outdated.

Andrews systems seem OK, once you figure them out, but documentation still very lacking viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1684

The Neuron forum was shut down, and now even comments seem disabled on the website product page. At the bottom of the Professional THC page:
Comments & Feedback
Comments (0)
This thread has been closed from taking new comments.

So basically you are looking at the supplied user guide and direct email for support.
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Re: Synchronous with motion macros for stand alone THC.

Postby shad » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:56 pm

Guys, you are right.
Neuron Lite THC have not a START/STOP hardware inut for this.
Only Professional version have a hardware interface for START/STOP.
This version is usually sold in the domestic market, so the user manual for this are only in Russian.
Only this manufacturer use the Neuron Professional THC and use fast torch off. http://crplasmaireland.ie/
To be precise, the settings of both controllers are the same, so the instructions for the Neuron Lite controller fully describe the operation of the system.
New User Manual for the Neuron Lite THC and UCCNC available on this link
https://1drv.ms/b/s!AsEiYqPpzPNssWAswrIPiYdgp1eZ?e=QcquNV
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